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When do you all go back to uni to study for your environmental degrees?
One, two week’s time??
idiosta on August 24, 2010
Peaceful? I think not.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11061661
Stop denying it!! on August 24, 2010
Interviewer “the state of Alberta” – Alberta is a province of Canada, not a state in the USA – still, facts never seem to matter where eco-waffle is concerned.
Here’s one – one of the major investors in Canadian Tar Sand production is PetroChina – why not go there and superglue yourselves to one of their refineries? At least that would spare Edinburgh’s ratepayers from your presence in future and it would be cost neutral as an invoice for any ammunition expended would be sent to the protester’s relatives.
Edinburger on August 24, 2010
“one of the major investors in Canadian Tar Sand production is PetroChina – why not go there and superglue yourselves to one of their refineries?”
Then you would be whining that people were hypocrites for travelling to China on carbon emitting planes. We have people like you sussed.
By the way I spent much of Sunday at the climate camp with someone who went all the way to China to protest, by plane, though not about RBS. He was expelled, being a westerner they tend to do that rather than your bloodthirsty hopes. I am proud to know him.
John on August 24, 2010
“Then you would be whining that people were hypocrites for travelling to China on carbon emitting planes.”
No need – the stench of hypocrisy rising from the PVC plook tents and vandals’ iPods was bad enough.
Edinburger on August 24, 2010
You achieved NOTHING at this site
Local RBS account holder on August 24, 2010
If the camp achieved nothing why are so many people taking the time to criticise it. You protest too much.
John on August 24, 2010
Take note of the followinng from the BBC news website. The climate camp scum have appeared in court, and not one of them is from Scotland. These maggots are not welcome in Scotland:
“Five climate change activists have come before Edinburgh Sheriff Court over the Royal Bank of Scotland protests.
Giovanna Speciale, 38 and Tim Gee, 25, both from London, along with Cara Whelan, from Caredigion, Wales, denied breaches of the peace.
Eleanor Smith, 24, from London, denied painting graffiti on RBS bins and Martin Wallace, 58, from France, denied assaulting a policeman.
The Gogurburn climate camp was set up in protest at RBS’s oil investments.
All five were granted bail on the special conditions that they left Edinburgh by 1900 BST on Monday and that they did not enter the city unless attending court or pre-arranged meetings with their solicitor.
They were also told not to go within 500 yards of the RBS HQ at Gogurburn.
Mr Speciale, Mr Gee and Ms Whelan are accused of committing a breach of the peace on 23 August at a branch of the RBS in Nicolson Street by preventing customers from entering and by chanting slogans and gluing themselves to each other and the entrance door of the premises.
Ms Smith was accused of painting graffiti on eight bins belonging to the bank on the Royal Mile on 23 August and damaging them.
Mr Wallace was accused of assaulting Sgt Kevin Storey of Lothian and Borders Police at Gogarburn Bridge on 22 August by rubbing his head, which had nettles attached, against the policeman’s arm.
He was also accused of assaulting unknown officers by attempting to strike them with a stick or similar instrument.
A total of 18 people have been arrested since the Climate Camp was set up in Gogurburn last Thursday.”
CLIMATE CAMP – WHY NO COMMENTS ON THE SCUM IN COURT?
Tony on August 25, 2010
As an Edinburgh local, I remember all too well the G8 riots in 2005. Unfortunately, that set the expectation for Climate Camp among us locals and although I’m relieved that nothing quite as bad happened, I certainly don’t see any good has come of your actions.
Simon on August 25, 2010
I came back from the camp yesterday and have positive comments and a minor complaint.
I met plenty of campers from Scotland at the camp. Some of its achievements are that it allowed us to experience living sustainably, and it allowed us to experience empowerment. So we felt empowered to directly confront those who are endangering our world. In the tradition of the suffragettes etc. There was much respectful and sensible debate on the best way forward for our movement.
My minor complaint is that it had been agreed by consensus that amplified music would end at 10.30pm. But that decision was ignored at the camp. It would be better to not give a ‘power down’ time, than to give one then ignore it. I found it frustrating and hurtful that a consensus decision had been disregarded.
I’m a light sleeper, and don’t sleep well in tents, but the music didn’t help at all. So I wont sleep at the camp again, but hopefully I’ll be able to attend as a day visitor in the future. There are lots of lovely, inspiring people there, who I’d like to get to know more, when I’m not so sleepy.
Best wishes, Tracy
Tracy on August 25, 2010
“My minor complaint is that it had been agreed by consensus that amplified music would end at 10.30pm. But that decision was ignored at the camp.”
I hope that you get involved and try and change that. There are a number of opportunities at http://climatecamp.org.uk/get-involved and if nobody takes it up then it certainly will not change.
Glad you liked the camp otherwise.
John on August 25, 2010
“I found it frustrating and hurtful that a consensus decision had been disregarded.”
Tracy – sorry you had a disturbed night – diddums widdums – you should have stayed at home with pumsy and daddykins.
The clear consensus of the people of Edinburgh is that this atrocity should not have been inflicted on us but that was ignored as well – that’s Fascism – as practised by Climate Camp’s “organisers”.
Ediburger on August 25, 2010
“Some of its achievements are that it allowed us to experience living sustainably”
By the way, Tracy, how is spending a couple of nights in a man made tent, produced, shipped and distributed using petrochemicals to a camp site where people travelled by vehicles powered by fossil fuels to eat grub that had to be trucked in from christ knows where on propane fuelled burners “sustainable”?
Less fuel would have been wasted if you’d stayed at home and ordered in a pizza.
Ediburger on August 25, 2010
True, there is some extra carbon used to get to and set up the camp.
But after spending a week at the Heathrow Camp three years ago, it completely changed my attitude to consumption. I developed for the first time a deep respect for the earth, living with almost no electric, winding my torch up, close to the earth. I realised that you can have high quality of life without high resource use. That quality came from respectful trusting contact with people, rather than ‘stuff’. I started using less electric and less water when I got home.
Edinburger, what do you mean “you should have stayed at home with pumsy and daddykins”? I left home 20 years ago.
Thanks for your comment John.
Tracy on August 25, 2010
Stay at mine Tracy I’ll keep you up all night!
Tommo on August 25, 2010
Hi Tracey,
Just wondering how far you think we showed go? Respecting the earth is something we should all be doing, but should we ignore the progress of mankind and go back to cave dwelling or living like the amish. how long before we all start killing each other for a cow or pig history dictates it wont work. If we give up everything and go back to basics what happens to the advancements in the medical field? cancer treatment ect ect
Cavey on August 25, 2010
Tracy – I’m heartened that when you had an earlier wee weekend break at Heathrow, “I started using less electric and less water when I got home.”.
Unless you actually put more resources back into the planet than you take out (do you weave your own cloth out of nettles and live off the roots that you grub up using your digging stick or do you shop at TK Max and Sainsburys?), then you are a consumer and therfre your lifestyle, like everyone else’s is unsustainable.
That is unless someone like RBS funds the continuing hunt for new resources (or a better way to leverage existing resources), then at best your lifestyle is merely LESS unsustainable than someone else, it is not sustainable per se…..
True, you may use less resources than all the climate wallahs who jet off to conferences at 5 star resorts in places like Bali (why not hold a video conference?) or pillares of the green community like Al Gore whose leccy bill (for his numerous swimming pools) is probably more than RBS at Gogarburn.
Whilst such rampant hypocrisy pervades the gweeny ranks, the rest of all realise that it’s just a convenient way for Governments to suck out extra revenues and ignore teh shrill hysteria.
Edinburger on August 26, 2010
I so enjoy reading vitriolic comments about protesters – that way the courageous sofa snipers can completely ignore the issues whilst having a pop at trustafarians called Tristan /filthy dole parasites /professional anarchists/ naive virgins / hypocrites(take your pick).
Interestingly, the New York Times has a different take on the issue of investment in environmental rape:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/31/business/energy-environment/31coal.html?_r=1
nuff said – and screw the trolls!
Bernie on August 31, 2010